I wish I could help ya there cigarnub, but my experience with the cubans only lasted as long as my stay at guantanimo bay back in 1974. They had that kinda vanilla cream taste back then. The only ones I been havin since then was given ta me, and I be sure they were fakes , cause they neither had the taste nor did they sit me back in a chair like they did back in tha day. No help, I know but I thought ya might at least appreciate a response ta ya post.